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		<title>By: Financial Freedumb &#38; Brownie - A PF Blog &#187; How I Lost $1,677 &#38; a $500 Pack of Cigarettes</title>
		<link>http://www.financialfreedumb.com/2006/08/08/just-because-youre-young-you-have-to-be-aggressive/comment-page-1/#comment-849</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Freedumb &#38; Brownie - A PF Blog &#187; How I Lost $1,677 &#38; a $500 Pack of Cigarettes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Weekly Roundup - 08/11/06...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here&#8217;s a quick look at some of things that caught my eye over the past week&#8230; 

JLP wants to know how much you spend on your household bills.
FMF has some tips for improving your home&#8217;s value with a steam cleaner.
But MBH disagrees&amp;#82...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Weekly Roundup &#8211; 08/11/06&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quick look at some of things that caught my eye over the past week&#8230; </p>
<p>JLP wants to know how much you spend on your household bills.<br />
FMF has some tips for improving your home&#8217;s value with a steam cleaner.<br />
But MBH disagrees&amp;#82&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: freedumb</title>
		<link>http://www.financialfreedumb.com/2006/08/08/just-because-youre-young-you-have-to-be-aggressive/comment-page-1/#comment-680</link>
		<dc:creator>freedumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 06:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, I was being lazy...damn it.  :D

&lt;strong&gt;Conservative:&lt;/strong&gt;

The fund does not buy securities directly; instead, it invests in six Savings
Plan Funds: the Stable Value Fund, the Inflation Protected Bond Fund, the
Total Bond Market Fund, the Real Estate Investment Trust Index Fund, the
Total Stock Market Index Fund, and the Total International Stock Market
Index Fund. This gives the fund exposure to a broadly diversified group of
U.S. and foreign stocks and various types of bonds. The fund’s target asset
allocation between stocks and bonds is 50% stocks, 50% bonds. The current
target allocation is 20% Stable Value Fund, 25% Inflation Protected Bond
Fund, 5% Total Bond Market Fund, 10% Real Estate Investment Trust Index
Fund, 30% Total Stock Market Index Fund, and 10% Total International
Stock Market Index Fund. State Street Global Advisors rebalances the fund
every month to the target allocations. For detailed information on the
underlying funds that comprise the Conservative Life Strategy Fund, please read the corresponding fund fliers.

&lt;strong&gt;Moderate:&lt;/strong&gt;

The fund does not buy securities directly; instead, it invests in six Saving
Plan Funds: the Stable Value Fund, the Inflation Protected Bond Fund, the
Total Bond Market Fund, the Real Estate Investment Trust Index Fund, the
Total Stock Market Index Fund, and the Total International Stock Market
Index Fund. This gives the fund exposure to a broadly diversified group
of U.S. and foreign stocks and various types of bonds. The fund’s target
asset allocation between stocks and bonds is 65% stocks, 35% bonds.
The current target allocation is 10% Stable Value Fund, 15% Inflation
Protected Bond Fund, 10% Total Bond Market Fund, 5% Real Estate
Investment Trust Index Fund, 45% Total Stock Market Index Fund, and
15% Total International Stock Market Index Fund. State Street Global
Advisors rebalances the fund every month to the target allocations. For
detailed information on the underlying funds that comprise the Moderate
Life Strategy Fund, please read the corresponding fund fliers.

&lt;strong&gt;Aggressive:&lt;/strong&gt;

The fund does not buy securities directly; instead, it invests in four Savings
Plan Funds: the Total Bond Market Fund, the Real Estate Investment Trust
Index Fund, the Total Stock Market Index Fund, and the Total International
Stock Market Index Fund. This gives the fund exposure to a broadly
diversified group of U.S. and foreign stocks and various types of bonds.
The fund’s target asset allocation between stocks and bonds is 85% stocks,
15% bonds. The current target allocation is 15% Total Bond Market Fund,
5% Real Estate Investment Trust Index Fund, 60% Total Stock Market Index
Fund, and 20% Total International Stock Market Index Fund. State Street
Global Advisors rebalances the fund every month to the target allocations.
For detailed information on the underlying funds that comprise the
Aggressive Life Strategy Fund, please read the corresponding fund fliers.

Not going to post the entire flier...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I was being lazy&#8230;damn it.  <img src='http://www.financialfreedumb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Conservative:</strong></p>
<p>The fund does not buy securities directly; instead, it invests in six Savings<br />
Plan Funds: the Stable Value Fund, the Inflation Protected Bond Fund, the<br />
Total Bond Market Fund, the Real Estate Investment Trust Index Fund, the<br />
Total Stock Market Index Fund, and the Total International Stock Market<br />
Index Fund. This gives the fund exposure to a broadly diversified group of<br />
U.S. and foreign stocks and various types of bonds. The fund’s target asset<br />
allocation between stocks and bonds is 50% stocks, 50% bonds. The current<br />
target allocation is 20% Stable Value Fund, 25% Inflation Protected Bond<br />
Fund, 5% Total Bond Market Fund, 10% Real Estate Investment Trust Index<br />
Fund, 30% Total Stock Market Index Fund, and 10% Total International<br />
Stock Market Index Fund. State Street Global Advisors rebalances the fund<br />
every month to the target allocations. For detailed information on the<br />
underlying funds that comprise the Conservative Life Strategy Fund, please read the corresponding fund fliers.</p>
<p><strong>Moderate:</strong></p>
<p>The fund does not buy securities directly; instead, it invests in six Saving<br />
Plan Funds: the Stable Value Fund, the Inflation Protected Bond Fund, the<br />
Total Bond Market Fund, the Real Estate Investment Trust Index Fund, the<br />
Total Stock Market Index Fund, and the Total International Stock Market<br />
Index Fund. This gives the fund exposure to a broadly diversified group<br />
of U.S. and foreign stocks and various types of bonds. The fund’s target<br />
asset allocation between stocks and bonds is 65% stocks, 35% bonds.<br />
The current target allocation is 10% Stable Value Fund, 15% Inflation<br />
Protected Bond Fund, 10% Total Bond Market Fund, 5% Real Estate<br />
Investment Trust Index Fund, 45% Total Stock Market Index Fund, and<br />
15% Total International Stock Market Index Fund. State Street Global<br />
Advisors rebalances the fund every month to the target allocations. For<br />
detailed information on the underlying funds that comprise the Moderate<br />
Life Strategy Fund, please read the corresponding fund fliers.</p>
<p><strong>Aggressive:</strong></p>
<p>The fund does not buy securities directly; instead, it invests in four Savings<br />
Plan Funds: the Total Bond Market Fund, the Real Estate Investment Trust<br />
Index Fund, the Total Stock Market Index Fund, and the Total International<br />
Stock Market Index Fund. This gives the fund exposure to a broadly<br />
diversified group of U.S. and foreign stocks and various types of bonds.<br />
The fund’s target asset allocation between stocks and bonds is 85% stocks,<br />
15% bonds. The current target allocation is 15% Total Bond Market Fund,<br />
5% Real Estate Investment Trust Index Fund, 60% Total Stock Market Index<br />
Fund, and 20% Total International Stock Market Index Fund. State Street<br />
Global Advisors rebalances the fund every month to the target allocations.<br />
For detailed information on the underlying funds that comprise the<br />
Aggressive Life Strategy Fund, please read the corresponding fund fliers.</p>
<p>Not going to post the entire flier&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.financialfreedumb.com/2006/08/08/just-because-youre-young-you-have-to-be-aggressive/comment-page-1/#comment-679</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 06:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservative, Moderate, Aggressive--those don&#039;t really mean anything.  They&#039;re just in 401k&#039;s for people who don&#039;t know anything.  By aggressive do you mean stocks versus bonds?  Do you mean small cap versus large cap?  You didn&#039;t lay out any specifics by which to measure what you mean by aggressive and conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative, Moderate, Aggressive&#8211;those don&#8217;t really mean anything.  They&#8217;re just in 401k&#8217;s for people who don&#8217;t know anything.  By aggressive do you mean stocks versus bonds?  Do you mean small cap versus large cap?  You didn&#8217;t lay out any specifics by which to measure what you mean by aggressive and conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: freedumb</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alvanson, oh, I didn&#039;t take your comment that way...I was apologizing because my original post was like a collection of thoughts rather than a well articulated article...I agree 100% about the p in PF.

Empty Spaces, makes sense...but how much time do you give your investments to make it to 3x? The main gripe I have against all the advice about being aggressive is that the main premise is time. We have lots of time. But if the first ten years don&#039;t work out, that&#039;s lost time. Then suddenly the recommendation is to shift our investments to more moderate allocations? Then what happens if we wait 20 years for our aggressive funds to return?

Consider the following evidence...My 401k program has 3 tiers titled, &quot;Conservative,&quot; &quot;Moderate,&quot; and &quot;Aggressive.&quot; It has fund performance for the past 5 years.

Fund - 1 year 3 years 5 years
Conservative - 7.4% 11.3% 7.8%
Moderate - 7.9% 12.2% 7.1%
Aggressive - 9.1% 14.0% 6.9%

In the end, the conservative fund is up higher than moderate and aggressive funds. Is it worth it to be aggressive? I dunno...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alvanson, oh, I didn&#8217;t take your comment that way&#8230;I was apologizing because my original post was like a collection of thoughts rather than a well articulated article&#8230;I agree 100% about the p in PF.</p>
<p>Empty Spaces, makes sense&#8230;but how much time do you give your investments to make it to 3x? The main gripe I have against all the advice about being aggressive is that the main premise is time. We have lots of time. But if the first ten years don&#8217;t work out, that&#8217;s lost time. Then suddenly the recommendation is to shift our investments to more moderate allocations? Then what happens if we wait 20 years for our aggressive funds to return?</p>
<p>Consider the following evidence&#8230;My 401k program has 3 tiers titled, &#8220;Conservative,&#8221; &#8220;Moderate,&#8221; and &#8220;Aggressive.&#8221; It has fund performance for the past 5 years.</p>
<p>Fund &#8211; 1 year 3 years 5 years<br />
Conservative &#8211; 7.4% 11.3% 7.8%<br />
Moderate &#8211; 7.9% 12.2% 7.1%<br />
Aggressive &#8211; 9.1% 14.0% 6.9%</p>
<p>In the end, the conservative fund is up higher than moderate and aggressive funds. Is it worth it to be aggressive? I dunno&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: empty spaces</title>
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		<dc:creator>empty spaces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.

If you&#039;re taking any risk, you should expect atleast a 3 fold reward.

For example, if you invest $4k in a speculative stock  and decide to bail if it drops 25%, your at risk capital is $1k. So you should expect a return of $3k to justify the risk.

If you risking $1k and your upside is $2k its not worth it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re taking any risk, you should expect atleast a 3 fold reward.</p>
<p>For example, if you invest $4k in a speculative stock  and decide to bail if it drops 25%, your at risk capital is $1k. So you should expect a return of $3k to justify the risk.</p>
<p>If you risking $1k and your upside is $2k its not worth it!</p>
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		<title>By: alvanson @ CapApp</title>
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		<dc:creator>alvanson @ CapApp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freedumb, I understand.  I&#039;m in no way suggesting that you should run out to invest aggressively (and obviously there&#039;s no way you would receive that idea either).  But you&#039;re right: the whole idea of &lt;em&gt;personal&lt;/em&gt; finance is that it is &lt;em&gt;personal&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;em&gt;You&lt;/em&gt; customize &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; finances to your goals and to what is comfortable for you!  Some financial advisors and pf bloggers lose sight of this fact.  Excellent article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>freedumb, I understand.  I&#8217;m in no way suggesting that you should run out to invest aggressively (and obviously there&#8217;s no way you would receive that idea either).  But you&#8217;re right: the whole idea of <em>personal</em> finance is that it is <em>personal</em>.  <em>You</em> customize <em>your</em> finances to your goals and to what is comfortable for you!  Some financial advisors and pf bloggers lose sight of this fact.  Excellent article!</p>
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		<title>By: freedumb</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alvanson, I guess so...if 2% was the average for the next 30years that&#039;d be really bad.  I am also a pessimist...

Sorry for the rambling...this was kind of a rant...just because all the recommendations always say to be aggressive while you&#039;re young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alvanson, I guess so&#8230;if 2% was the average for the next 30years that&#8217;d be really bad.  I am also a pessimist&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry for the rambling&#8230;this was kind of a rant&#8230;just because all the recommendations always say to be aggressive while you&#8217;re young.</p>
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		<title>By: alvanson @ CapApp</title>
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		<dc:creator>alvanson @ CapApp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make an excellent point.  Tolerance of risk is a key component to any investment decision, and your argument is perfectly valid.  I just want to make a comment regarding your second last paragraph: in order for the economy to prosper in the long run, investors must be able to achieve a higher rate of return over the long run by investing in equities rather than saving in banks.  If you happened to pick the 30 year period where &quot;average is 2%&quot; on rather safe equities (blue chip stock, index fund or ETF), then we all have more problems on our hands than terrible returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make an excellent point.  Tolerance of risk is a key component to any investment decision, and your argument is perfectly valid.  I just want to make a comment regarding your second last paragraph: in order for the economy to prosper in the long run, investors must be able to achieve a higher rate of return over the long run by investing in equities rather than saving in banks.  If you happened to pick the 30 year period where &#8220;average is 2%&#8221; on rather safe equities (blue chip stock, index fund or ETF), then we all have more problems on our hands than terrible returns.</p>
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